CASE TITLE: United States v. McClain, et al. 

CASE NUMBER: 20 CR 812 

ACTIVITY: Telephone conversation between Michael McClain and William Cousineau 

DATE: April 11, 2018 

TIME: 8:11 p.m. 

SESSION NUMBER: 262 

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MCCLAIN: Hello. 

COUSINEAU: Hey, how are you? 

MCCLAIN: Good, good. You sound tired. 

COUSINEAU: Uh, it’s been a long day. Nothing, nothing wrong with busy days right? 

MCCLAIN: How’s the dark side? 

COUSINEAU: It’s uh, uh it’s stressful but in a different way. You know? 

MCCLAIN: Mhm. 

COUSINEAU: It’s uh, you know, it’s uh, nothing will be as stressful as those campaign days though so. (Laughs.)   

MCCLAIN: Well I can— 

COUSINEAU: It was, it was good training. 

MCCLAIN: And um, as long as we always remember who our real client is. 

COUSINEAU: Yep. 

McCLAIN: It’s pretty, it’s not easy but it mollifies it. 

COUSINEAU: Oh yeah. Yeah, I missed a uh, call this evening because I was with, him. (Unintelligible). I just said, “Sorry I’m, I can’t be there,” you know. 

MCCLAIN: Right. 

COUSINEAU: Yep, it’s easy to keep your priorities straight if you remember that. 

MCCLAIN: Yep. 

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